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(04-16-2015, 06:16 PM)dairius_chi Wrote: A Red Mage, Holy/Dark Knight, any Partial Caster isn't going to have the Int of a Black Mage, the Wis of a White Mage, not unless they completely abandon their combat roles. This feat offers larger returns for people with higher casting mods, who are already more likely to be of the classes that have 9th level casting.

It's just not as worth taking for the partial casters, who are sadly the classes that need extra MP the most given how small their pools can be. I mean if you can only afford a 16 in your casting attribute, which for more standard pt buy games is not uncommon, you wouldn't get any bonus MP increase beyond 9th level...

In the case of the 16-17 Casting Attribute you'd normally have 6 bonus MP, this feat gives you (starting at 9th level) 10 more on top of that, nice for the level but it doesn't increase beyond that point. While characters with a natural or enhanced Casting Attribute of 24+ often get as much as 22-27 bonus MP, more than the old feat gave when it was 1/level.

It gives less now to the characters with lower attributes, and more to the characters with higher attributes. The change this feat has undergone is now penalizing people who cannot afford to focus on their casting attribute, you're crippling the slowest runners and taxing the middle and lower class while the rich get richer >.>

This would be like if Toughness gave more HP to Barbarians than it did to Wizards, or gave more HP to characters with higher constitution... does that sound like it's a fair feat?

Never compare HPs to MPs, it just doesn't make sense in terms of balance. The fact that they gain more MP at all is an incredible feat. There's nothing like it in Pathfinder.
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