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(09-04-2014, 03:43 AM)dairius_chi Wrote: At this point ffd20 is a supplement of PF, not it's own entirely separate system so Vil likely doesn't want to host any and everything that he borrows from PF such as their feats and whatnot.

Grit is in the Gunner class iirc, not firearms. If you think it's missing anything just read through the gunslinger class for Pathfinder as it's entirely based off that.


Alchemical Bullet has nothing to do with adding spells to ammunition, it allows you to add the effects of a Chemist's bomb or other Alrchemical Item to a bullet in a very clearly stated fashion- either as part of the standard action used to load and fire or as a move action to load prior to firing depending on what item you're trying to use.

If you wanted to make magic ammunition it would work the same way as crafting a magic item- requiring the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat. 50 pieces of ammunition can be enchanted at once at the same price as a single weapon, as stated in magic item crafting for both 3.5 and PF. So if you wanted to make 50 +1 flaming bullets it would cost 4,000 gil plus the price of 50 bullets to craft, or 8,000 plus the price of 50 bullets for market prices. In PF you can bypass spell requirements by increasing the craft DC by +5, so if you can get your modifier up high enough no need for scrolls and such.


Wouldn't it just be craft alchemical item feat , gun smithing , and spell component (as well as the price of the amount of bullets)

Since gunsmithing lets you craft bullets.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/gunsmithing

"Crafting Ammunition: You can craft bullets, pellets, and black powder for a cost in raw materials equal to 10% of the price. If you have at least 1 rank in Craft (alchemy), you can craft alchemical cartridges for a cost in raw materials equal to half the price of the cartridge. At your GM’s discretion, you can craft metal cartridges for a cost in raw materials equal to half the cost of the cartridge. Crafting bullets, black powder, or cartridges takes 1 day of work for every 1,000 gp of ammunition (minimum 1 day)."

How would you interpret that since this is pathfinders ruling on the matter, and I was basing that on the ffd20 alchemical bullet rule saying a gunsmith "would" have access, to help with the discoveries a chemist would have (outside grenade gun).

Would that seem to far fetched from that standpoint ?
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Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-16-2014, 12:32 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-16-2014, 05:52 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Freeray - 07-16-2014, 10:44 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-16-2014, 10:55 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Freeray - 07-17-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-17-2014, 11:44 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Gizmo - 07-20-2014, 12:10 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-20-2014, 06:22 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Gizmo - 07-20-2014, 10:10 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 07-20-2014, 10:11 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Gizmo - 07-20-2014, 10:25 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by LeoArchon - 08-08-2014, 11:40 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 08-09-2014, 03:48 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Lemp - 08-20-2014, 07:37 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 08-20-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by timtheenchanter - 08-23-2014, 03:24 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 08-23-2014, 05:54 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by timtheenchanter - 08-24-2014, 03:21 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 08-24-2014, 08:46 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by timtheenchanter - 08-24-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by dairius_chi - 08-24-2014, 12:38 PM
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RE: Errors and Mistakes - by Viladin - 08-24-2014, 08:45 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by kenki - 09-04-2014, 02:48 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by dairius_chi - 09-04-2014, 03:43 AM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by kenki - 09-04-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by dairius_chi - 09-04-2014, 09:47 PM
RE: Errors and Mistakes - by timtheenchanter - 09-05-2014, 02:00 AM
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RE: Errors and Mistakes - by dairius_chi - 03-02-2015, 06:58 AM
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