10-14-2015, 07:14 PM
Hmm... well it all depends- what all were you removing for the Maneuvers? Was it something like all Fighter Talents? If the tradeoff is a little extreme getting +2 skill/level wouldn't be so hard to rationalize, Heavy Armor is an option... the Holy Knight already gets Iron Tortoise which is the only one sort of geared towards Heavy Armor + Shield (with a select few maneuvers) so limiting the Fighter to Light/Medium could work...
If you can't think of much to drop specifically for that, but as mentioned above the tradeoff is a little skewed but notsomuch, there was also the Lore Warden Archetype which got 2 extra skill points per level, but could only be allocated into Int-based skills. Giving them 2 skills/level that can only be allocated into Discipline Key Skills could be a way to do that. There are some useful ones like Acrobatics or Bluff, but it isn't complete freedom.
I'll agree though, the only classes that should be limited to 2+Int are int-based classes themselves with casting or something similar, like the Wizard or Magus (and Magus should probably still get 4+Int, it's like a more deadly Bard). But things as they are it's an unbalancing point to just make any archetypes one person creates have the skill boost when the base system and other archetypes don't support it.
And in the end as a Fighter there aren't a ton of skills you NEED to max out... but the lower levels it hurts not being able to get even 1 rank in a lot of key skills. Just another form of resource management.
If you can't think of much to drop specifically for that, but as mentioned above the tradeoff is a little skewed but notsomuch, there was also the Lore Warden Archetype which got 2 extra skill points per level, but could only be allocated into Int-based skills. Giving them 2 skills/level that can only be allocated into Discipline Key Skills could be a way to do that. There are some useful ones like Acrobatics or Bluff, but it isn't complete freedom.
I'll agree though, the only classes that should be limited to 2+Int are int-based classes themselves with casting or something similar, like the Wizard or Magus (and Magus should probably still get 4+Int, it's like a more deadly Bard). But things as they are it's an unbalancing point to just make any archetypes one person creates have the skill boost when the base system and other archetypes don't support it.
And in the end as a Fighter there aren't a ton of skills you NEED to max out... but the lower levels it hurts not being able to get even 1 rank in a lot of key skills. Just another form of resource management.