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It really isn't, I mean I haven't even used it on my Mages in a while but a friend of mine is building a Holy Knight and when he said he'd go for Wild Talent to get some MP I thought he was crazy. "2 MP isn't worth a feat, dude... just take Extra MP." And when he copy-pasted the edited one something seemed off.

Level 5 with new Extra MP:
Casting Attribute 16: Only gives you 1 MP...
Casting Attribute 18: Only gives 3 MP...
Casting Attribute 20: Gives 5 MP, you'd need Casting stat of 20 for it to offer the same benefits it once did

Level 10 with new Extra MP:
Casting Attribute 16: Gives 10 MP, bit odd that it keeps up...
Casting Attribute 18: Only gives 8 MP, why would it be weaker for someone with a higher stat now?
Casting Attribute 20: Gives 5 MP, this is all over the place...

Level 15 with new Extra MP:
Casting Attribute 16: Gives 10 MP, it has ceased progression...
Casting Attribute 18: Gives 14 MP, close to what it once did at this level...
Casting Attribute 20: Gives 18 MP, even more than the old feat...

Level 20 with the new Extra MP:
Casting Attribute 16: Gives 10 MP, Nothing in over 10 levels at this point...
Casting attribute 18: Gives 14 MP, has also ceased to increase further...
Casting Attribute 20: Gives 18 MP, even this has ceased...

If your stat is higher, the returns are higher, to the point where people with 24+ will get even more than the old feat once gave at level 20.

I only included the lower numbers because, as stated, Extra MP used to be most beneficial to the lower casting classes. It's bonuses are now erratic with unexpected returns at certain levels and cutoff points for people who can't afford to make their casting stat into something amazing. If the goal was to give less MP you only did that for the classes that already HAVE less MP, the returns are quickly outweighing what you once got for it if you have your casting mod as your main focus, like a Black Mage, White Mage, Necromancer, etc... would.

It's become a case of the rich get richer, but with MP. This system worked for tes's because with Power Points it really was just +1/level. Clean, stable, didn't require any special recalculations from one level to the next... with this MP system it's just messy, and imbalanced.
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Official Update Thread - by Viladin - 10-04-2012, 07:51 PM
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